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@Edelweiss Ja, but it makes me paranoid about the possibility of them re-releasing 2 certain limited SSRs I really wanted. Not knowing what's to come for the next 2+ months & how much potential UN coins I can prepare & regather in-between, not having a back-up plan plus my reawakened desires makes me slightly uneasy. 

Hmm, thinking of pushing my luck a bit w/ the gacha to try get a boost character.

@Nexiva Don't know about Takeru & his waifu-powered-bomb returning, he's too good to give away again so soon.

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btw, assuming my moonrunes reading ability and google translate was right, boosts for this events was glitched, i read on twitter the people are hailed shitstorm about this drops n stuff, not the medal drops though, but the crates and the chances of getting mechs n stella drops.

i think its supposed to give you 200% extra drops when you bring 2 boosts like previous similar events

 

 

come on, i need more medals, i'm not even stop playing this, but everytime i used boosts for 40 stamina, its so damn difficult to get more than 150 golds, let alone other medals.

 

@Reis no no, not necessarily should be takeru, but the event type and prizes in similar fashion as that event, it would be really helpful for this hunt

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13 minutes ago, Nexiva said:

btw, assuming my moonrunes reading ability and google translate was right, boosts for this events was glitched, i read on twitter the people are hailed shitstorm about this drops n stuff, not the medal drops though, but the crates and the chances of getting mechs n stella drops.

i think its supposed to give you 200% extra drops when you bring 2 boosts like previous similar events

come on, i need more medals, i'm not even stop playing this, but everytime i used boosts for 40 stamina, its so damn difficult to get more than 150 golds, let alone other medals.

Pretty sure the boost is not bugged.

You NEED to have the character LB-MAX to have the extra 100% effect. Otherwise its just plain 100%. Yui specifically tho its just 50% without LB, and 100% with LB.

I am getting 500-700 gold per run so I know.

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2 minutes ago, Edelweiss said:

Pretty sure the boost is not bugged.

You NEED to have the character LB-MAX to have the extra % effect. Otherwise its just plain 100%.

I am getting 500-700 gold per run so I know.

well, sucks to be me, but actually i said that assuming those already LB and level maxed, so yes if brought 2 boosts yields 500-700 golds, then its good, but it still bothers me why twitter users complaining about this, not just one though, i dont know since i just borrowed one boost and having none, so i just got 150-250 max for gold even S rank it and no one dead.

 

hopefully tomorrow's maintenance will brought a new good stuff

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Ah, found some stuff about next update. Thry said its something tweaks for the quest, most probably additional difficulties, and changing gacha and un coin items.

 

Dony know if this was right or np tjough

 

 

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nothing to see here, just developer being a scumbag by adding new gacha, Halloween Ayamine Kei.

nothing else, not even drop rate changes, adding new difficulties whatsoever, nope, nein, nyet, null

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Son of a bich! why did it take 40 rolls to get 1 damn SSR out of this fucking box that 4% -10% SSR rate is a lie and they didn't even give me the event maid outfit version. I was thinking hey maybe I'll get something in the first 10 but noo fucking fake gacha rates. I wish there was some way to prove that they manipulate the rates to fail like this in gacha games far too often and complain somewhere to make them fix it cause this is bs. I'm sure they just do this on purpose in the code somewhere set certain people to have to clear the entire box to get the SSRs when the chance of that happening should be near impossible.

I really wanna see that maids cgs but now I'm probably gonna be too broke to buy anything else and I'm sure at least 1-2 of those new upcoming dmm games will be worth buying starter packs for. Damn my impulse control. 

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look at whats in that gacha box marcus theres only 2 SSR's in it out of 50 drops so the odds are not the best. its the same with regular gachas ive played enough games like this to just roll with the punchs.

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nah it should of taken only 20 rolls to get a SSR maybe 30 if I was unlucky but 40? each time you roll the SSR rate increases cause your remove possibilities out of the box it went from 4% to 6 and I think 8 then 10%. Im sure the game just shafted me because it felt like it and unrealistic failures mean we have to spend more to get what we want and thats what they want. hard to prove they do this so we can't complain most likely

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1 hour ago, Marcus said:

nah it should of taken only 20 rolls to get a SSR maybe 30 if I was unlucky but 40? each time you roll the SSR rate increases cause your remove possibilities out of the box it went from 4% to 6 and I think 8 then 10%. Im sure the game just shafted me because it felt like it and unrealistic failures mean we have to spend more to get what we want and thats what they want. hard to prove they do this so we can't complain most likely

sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't. The % is really just there for show that it should have a higher chance than normal gacha, but not really much. with 10% chance divide by 2 the chance of the maid card is still 5% or 1 out of 20 pulls.

i am sure you can get it next year when it is available via UN coins.

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@Marcus I feel ya but sorry, its not unheard of especially considering gacha games in general. I've played enough Super Robot Wars, XCOM, Fire Emblem, etc. to not completely trust 80-90+% odds.

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@Marcus i feel you fam, i do experienced it lots as well, well, take example from idolmaster cgss, during a certain event, the ssr rate overall is 6% and it even boosted for the featured character, each 10 rolls spent 2500 crystals.

i spent more than 20k crystals, so roughly 10x10 rolls, 100 stuffs in total.

what i get? let alone the featured SSR, i didnt even get any single ssr, it sucks, yes, big time.

 

the point is, it's all about chances, even though the rate was 90% we could ended up with the short straw at the remaining 10%, it's all the same nature in gacha stuff, its just a probability, chances, if it says 100% then we could sue them by faking it if we dont get any in that 100%.

 

so yeah, i feel you, we all feel you, cheer up brother, gacha rates is just a number, it was meaningless, it depends on our luck.

 

reminder i also spent around 500 crystals when the Ishkur came out, yet i dnt get it and just ended up with few, almost none SSR.

 

 

sitrep

this event still sucks, i just have 1300 coins now, i need another 9200 coins to buy this month's SSR share, goddamn it, it means i need roughly 184 same SSRs to get the coins, impossible? yes, it was always impossible in betaverse

but if i should make it a priority, of course i need beatrix, already got slutmika which is neat, at least i need to get beatrix by the end of this month, put it simply, there's actually no one from my concubines list were listed at the store.

 

but still, 184 same SSRs? you joking devs, bring back takeru's styled event and you shall know my wrath

 

also, R.I.P. Grape-kun

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Well I'm learning not to bother too much with chance up for certain girls in these gacha games because half the time they only boost the rate enough to be say 1 out of 3 SSR that you do actually get will be the chance up girl. Stack that with the SSR rate being probably not higher than 3% and you can roll hundreds of times and not get the chance up girls. Really cruel process in my opinion its like their selling you a product with a hidden flaw that causes it to fail without a warranty and no return, shit should be illegal especially not even listing what the chance up rate is.

 

I suppose the only way to sanely gacha in this game is wait for them to do high rate ones with crystals if they ever do anything besides dmm point only gacha again or only go for the cheap dmm point ones if its guaranteed new girls. Screw this crap If this is how they're gonna do with box gachas they basically made me roll the equivalent of 30 times for a 10% chance which should only take ~10 rolls thats what really makes me rage. I expected at least something close to that average not triple the fucking numbers. 

 

I might have to abandon getting any of the Un coin girls at this rate probably a hit I will feel for a long time because I have no decent technique type cp character and I definitely could of use the healing of that miko outfit girl. Having 2 healers for these missions seems to be a legit strategy for noobs.

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Just a note on probability - 4% drop rate does not mean that if you roll 100 times you will get 4 hits.  Don't believe me?  Just create a simple RNG in your favorite programming language and run the numbers.

In slot machines and other casino games (my personal field) it is assumed that your sample size is in the millions.  So, of 100,000,000 rolls, 4% will be hits.  Small sample sizes are statistically insignificant.

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nah or be like me im the guy who who always get nailed by the 1% chance of being instantly killed in RPG's just embrace the god rule of gaming 

 

RNGUS IS A BITCH

 

also whos a good 360 speed type pilot. as speeds the only one i dont have a 360 for?

Sitrep

just got the SSR ticket got Yuis takimi >-> such a waste. 

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6 hours ago, rlranft said:

Just a note on probability - 4% drop rate does not mean that if you roll 100 times you will get 4 hits.  Don't believe me?  Just create a simple RNG in your favorite programming language and run the numbers.

In slot machines and other casino games (my personal field) it is assumed that your sample size is in the millions.  So, of 100,000,000 rolls, 4% will be hits.  Small sample sizes are statistically insignificant.

the rate isnt a solid 4% it goes up for however many R/SR fodder were taken out of box and I wasn't expecting 4/100 if it were a solid 4% chance I was basically expecting it to not take 300 to get 4 which is a better comparison to what I did taking about 38 to finally see any SSR

 

Btw anyone know around how much it cost for lvl 30+ building upgrades thinking about spamming that gold daily

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16 minutes ago, Marcus said:

Btw anyone know around how much it cost for lvl 30+ building upgrades thinking about spamming that gold daily

You can't... command center max at at lvl 10 and the others are 20.

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I'm just realizing how much of a trap using lise against these destroyer is. I thought it was my technique type pilot aoe not doing enough dmg to 1 shot them cause shes only at about 500% right now but its lise and the lise helpers I use randomly hitting them and then 3-4 of them will run at the rest of my team while I'm trying to get rid of the lasers. I cant really not use lise and the other bonus helpers dont seem to exist in my list except the girl that attacks in a straight line which seems rather useless. They conveniently place all of the lasers near the walls so if those destroyers charge they usually pin 2-3 ppl against the wall and instant kill them, its so fucking cheap.

 

 I hate seeing these retarded things running back and forth across the map so much makes me wish I could set bear traps to dismember their legs so they can never run again. Actually this would be perfect make one of those dumb ass premium scam units lay minefields all across the map or something I would pay money to see those things dead. but yeah I dont have it in me to put up with this anymore once I hit enough gold for 1 machine I think I'm done with this. That SSR ticket for 30k silver will just have to eat a dick.

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so, event ends tomorrow

 

sitrep

yep, this is the most bullshit drop i've ever got, after the last typhoon  rate, this one is so damn bullshit, low drops, expensive items, welp.

results, cannot buy everything, not even the XM3/awakening materials.

 

and i just realized, that i kept wasting the dupe stella by selling it directly, why i didnt just make them LB every time i got 5 of them so i could get the gems as well, damn. this thought lost on me, probably because it's been a while since the last character's drops.

 

hopefully next event would be better than this

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I'm surprised that I managed to fully LB Stella since so far I haven't gotten another drop since then. And regarding the TSFs, I got 2 each to drop while I bought 1 Phase3.

The medal collecting events used to be quite nice, now the inflated prices & harder methods on farming them has made them pretty bad. Just bought the SSR ticket & already broke for silver medals...a shame but got to forget about all those sweet mats again.

Aside from Stella & that sweet Phase3, this part of this event's gets a 'meh, could have been worst' rating from me. Another thing that saves it is that I've made a lot of progress on the Main Missions because of the super cheap AP. I was only around chapter 9 but I've managed to unlock up to chapter 19 so far w/ leftover APs from the event quests.

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well this events gonna be fun the SSR TSF is drop only and none of the pilots interest me oh well another ticket to farm.

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Well, new event missions & more things to farm. Screw the medals, simple point system it is! (I was barely able to buy anything in the medal shop, bleh) 

The new quests have no pesky Destroyers to ruin ones day so its already a big improvement compared to the last one. 

 

The new gacha SR Haruko can actually still be quite usable even in today's SSR ruled gameplays. New SSR Marimo's artwork just makes me think its moments before the CHOMP incident.

I don't mind the SSR Type77-UN Phantom, it does slightly bug me that its a higher rank & stronger than  F-15E Strike Eagle though (slight bias sure, I'm happy for more Strike Eagles but its also facts). I do find it amusing how it can only show its true XM3 power when the pilot is female. So what is it? a Unicorn who only gets close to maidens?

There's an expensive SSR ticket in the shop but no buyable SSR TSF. Well, at least I can buy the mats again as long as I work hard on it. The buyable SR Eagles are expensive as heck too though, SSR priced even (2 are more than a million points each, that's just ridiculous). The one who was leading this time must be the one who makes questionable event decisions again.

The different SSRs boosting different things...as usual those who have one or a few of them are the only ones who can fully exploit that w/ the supports.

 

No new Event scenario but at least the main missions are still cheap. Still haven't viewed them all & collected their g-ores so I got a lot in stock for later. 

Huh.Berserk Lise is actually in the normal gacha now

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okay, so another event started, pretty late to the fray but actually i already played it some since the even started.

 

goodbye medal shit, what i bought? not much, by not much i mean few, by few i mean RIDICULOUSLY FEW, yep, confirmed, shittiest event.

 

and for this thing.... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK WHY MUST HARUKO

spent my last 50 gems, and got no Haruko even though she's just SR, damn fuck just why. hopefully i would be able to get her or she'll be available in the regular gacha later on.

 

another simple mission with few shenanigans, means no meaningful swarms, all spreads which makes my squad easier.

and look at the bright side, i already got ssr yuzuka and yuuko to boost the drops, already LB yuzuka but still null for yuuko,

roughly, i got 46k points (full LV/LB Yuzuka, full LV (not yet full affection) yuuko) in my squad, no friend

and 54k points with same above in my squad with a full LV/LB yuzuka/yuuko from friend

 

and looking at the ssr ticket, so i guess around 30 plays... meaning 15x restarts, exploiting stamina bug, not bad, not bad at all
hopefully i got the SSR phantom, one is enough since i wont gonna use it anyway (probably) due to my T team already got 6 units with XM3, and i kinda sad with the Phase 3 from last event's that it comes with active stealth feature, meaning it wont show with its true color scheme, and as usual, i got it FUCKING PINK due to my old snapdragon processor, welp, thats sucks, i love phase 3, probably the only shiranui variant with the design that i love (mind this bullshit, i have regular 1/100 shiranui and revoltech shiranui, both UN color, but i bought it since it was cheap as chips lol).

 

and by this comment was written, i just reached 800k points, gonna buy the SSR ticket soon and lets see how it turns out.

 

its still sucks that i didnt get the new haruko, but i guess for now i already have her SSR, so yeah, pain eased

the last thing i wanted was she would have her new SSR soon, if its limited, who knows what'll i do

 

current gem, 39, with Yuuko's LB, it would give me another 9 gems, and i do not have any other grindables so far to adds into 50 to make a roll, but yeah, i fight for that.

and current un coins, 2137, planned to buy beatrix first, and hopefully i would have enough shit again to buy Mana later by the end of the year

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1 hour ago, Reis said:

 

Huh.Berserk Lise is actually in the normal gacha now

nooo makes me feel like I wasted the selection ticket almost oh well hopefully they do it again eventually and put someone else OP in it like that girl with her 2000% dmg giant laser

Btw should I awaken this Ef-2000 machine I'm not sure if that says 80% dmg up sounds too good to be true  ec9b4aeb03.png

or do you guys think this sketchy plan of  using the box gacha maid with this other machine might be worth it? I think it said reflect by a probability maybe this will mean all the shit she aggros with her skill will then kill itself? I only got her at skill lvl 1 right now 40% reduce dmg and attract for 10 seconds she seemed to actually be able to tank all the hits briefly and then suddenly dead idk I guess aggro doesnt drop when her skill ends that or she got hit by multiple lasers and died like a dbz villian. Her base defense also isnt that great but it seemed like I actually got closer to clearing the 40 stamina with her equiped vs the event Blondie(stella?). Doesn't make much since considering I'd gotten like 3 limit breaks on her so her skill fires at 900% so I guess could of been a fluke. Maybe I should do more testing to be sure.

 

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28 minutes ago, Marcus said:

nooo makes me feel like I wasted the selection ticket almost oh well hopefully they do it again eventually and put someone else OP in it like that girl with her 2000% dmg giant laser

Btw should I awaken this Ef-2000 machine I'm not sure if that says 80% dmg up sounds too good to be true  

or do you guys think this sketchy plan of  using the box gacha maid with this other machine might be worth it? I think it said reflect by a probability maybe this will mean all the shit she aggros with her skill will then kill itself? I only got her at skill lvl 1 right now 40% reduce dmg and attract for 10 seconds she seemed to actually be able to tank all the hits briefly and then suddenly dead idk I guess aggro doesnt drop when her skill ends that or she got hit by multiple lasers and died like a dbz villian. Her base defense also isnt that great but it seemed like I actually got closer to clearing the 40 stamina with her equiped vs the event Blondie(stella?). Doesn't make much since considering I'd gotten like 3 limit breaks on her so her skill fires at 900% so I guess could of been a fluke. Maybe I should do more testing to be sure.

Yes it is 80% up on typhoon.

The phase 3 reflects all damages. but doesn't mean it doesn't get hurt... the concept is that if you get hit by boss and if it ends up on the 20% probability of not reflecting, it dies...

Best if you put healer(whenever it get hit, skill gauge goes up and heal faster) or someone with extremely high defense on it and a healer on the team.

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The shield type shiranui can be replace with the phase3, the leader can be replace with stella and the rifle imperial shiranui 2nd with xm3 for  1700% 2 hit KO on the AP40 boss.

healer and buffer can be replace as seen fit.

overall an extremely easy stage... wish they have a hell AP 50 one...

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