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Is Meiya's hair violet or blue?

I've heard this question asked countless times since I read the Muv-Luv trilogy, and I've gotten many of each answer. A few people have also said that her hair is indigo.

I've always thought that Meiya's hair is violet, and last year, I did a bit of research in hopes of backing up my claim.

The Process

I used this editor to sample both light and dark tones in three different pictures of Meiya. I then averaged out the red, green, and blue values for each sample of the dark and light tones separately, resulting in average RGB values for both dark and light parts of Meiya's hair in each image. I also visually compared the colors that I sampled to two charts: this one and this one.

Once I had average RGB values for the dark and light shades of Meiya's hair in each of the three images, I averaged those as well to find the overall average RGB values of the dark and light shades of her hair. These could then be judged visually, but that wouldn't be very accurate, because everyone sees colors slightly differently.

This is where a problem arises: How can you define a color? Colors fade into each other, making it hard to draw the line between blue and violet, if at all possible. You can see the fuzzy boundaries between different colors here, on the color wheel. I was unable to find any concrete way to distinguish where blue becomes violet. However, I did find this, a tool meant for color blind people to learn what color something is. When given a hex code or RGB values, it tells the user the specific name of a color, as well as which hue it belongs to: red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet, brown, black, gray, or white. This indication of hue is the closest I can find to a solid determination of color. So, I plugged in the average RGB values for the light and dark shades of Meiya's hair.

Here's the result of the average dark shade:
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And here's the result of the average light shade:

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The Results

As you can see, this tool determined that both the light and dark shades of Meiya's hair are of the violet hue, thus supporting my claim that Meiya's hair is violet.

Disclaimer & Raw Data

As stated earlier, I cannot find a way to define a color or establish a boundary between two similar colors. Additionally, as stated earlier, everyone sees colors slightly differently. Whether Meiya's hair is blue or violet could be considered a question with no answer, so some may find it pointless. Perhaps the most concrete method that I can think of to "prove" what color Meiya's hair is would be to ask one of the Muv-Luv artists themselves, or if her hair color were stated in one of the VNs.

If you'd like to look at my raw data for this, you can find it here.

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Anybody who thinks its blue is colour blind. 
Its violet while her sister is purple. 

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Your screen type and setting may change your colour perception.

Also your sex may affect it too:
 

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To me, looks closer to blue than purple/violet.

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Working with Meiya in CGs and Sprites as much as I have, I've come to realize she has some purple in her hair. Which makes total sense given her relationship to Yuuhi.

I used to be in the "Blue" boat, though.

36 minutes ago, FaceEater said:


 

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To me, looks closer to blue than purple/violet.

Unless this means that men can't see teal, then it's just a chart saying that some guys don't care about the differences of colors and don't bother to name them. Key word being some.

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6 minutes ago, G3rman said:

Unless this means that men can't see teal, then it's just a chart saying that some guys don't care about the differences of colors and don't bother to name them. Key word being some.

Yeah, men are brutes who don't care about little details, like colour names (unless they have some design knowledge), and since this game is porn galge, it's not hard to believe that a lot people would think it's blue.

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Violet is to blue what orange is to red. In that regard, I suppose you can say Meiya's hair is sort of blue but that's not an accurate statement. Her hair's definitely in the violet range ! Besides, don't you like violets ? :)

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21 hours ago, PulakK said:

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Don't look at me ! I didn't start this ! :P

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Meiya's just dying her blond hair into a nice shade of indigo

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Playing devils advocate:

First: I consider Indigo - indigo, and not 'Violet'. Personally I associate indigo with Blue rather than Purple/Violet

Second: The image of the hex picker location in the second image is pretty much in the middle of the Indigo section and not purple/Violet

Third, according to http://thelandofcolor.com/hue-vs-color/ you can have more than just 7 hues, so violet/blue in the tool might not be true, as it can depend on how many hues the tool has.

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3 hours ago, limith said:

Playing devils advocate:

First: I consider Indigo - indigo, and not 'Violet'. Personally I associate indigo with Blue rather than Purple/Violet

Second: The image of the hex picker location in the second image is pretty much in the middle of the Indigo section and not purple/Violet

Third, according to http://thelandofcolor.com/hue-vs-color/ you can have more than just 7 hues, so violet/blue in the tool might not be true, as it can depend on how many hues the tool has.

You be stupit if you think that is closer to blue. 

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I think the entire point was that he considers Indigo as having a Blue hue, as opposed to a violet one. "Looking closer" has nothing to do, specially considering indigo has always been defined as "between violet and blue" and the human eye has difficulties differentiating hues at shorter wavelengths, so it's generally accepted as being able to enter in either, and in a lot of cases is given his own hue.

I personally have always thought of Indigo as Meiya's colour, but I admit that this is probably because his contrast with Yuuhi (Yuuhi is the violet one, Meiya the indigo one), so I may be biased.

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All I know is Meiya's hair has an 18% higher blue value when using sRGB color than her sister, and beyond that, I don't care. Her hair's beautiful. Reducing it to a simple color and saying it's just "dark bluish purple" or "violet" would be like saying the moon landings were "cool".

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